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Post by tyrannos on Jan 30, 2007 8:31:26 GMT -5
Well there's been a number of theories and docmentaries on the subject and Hitler's relationship with the Vril or Thule Society...along with the other "Societies" in Britain and the USA. Some if is compelling,some of it is fantasy,but the more you look into things the less clear everything becomes. *Dan Brown or David Icke are both far from original by the way,but somehow they picked up a following. Maybe they are agents? ;D Yeah, Hitler was influenced by secret societies. He would be considered a New-Ager if he was alive today. The whole Nazi society was steeped in occult and pagan stuff. It took mainstream sources years to mention it. Dan Brown based his book and movie on a centuries-old legend about the literal descendants of Jesus Christ, and many aspects of the myth have been proven to be elaborate hoaxes. I think that David Icke based his ideas on UFO lore and "V", an old TV show about shape-shifting reptilian ETs who take over the world. He might have borrowed from Sitchin too. Check out Texe Marrs if you really want to read some insane conspiracy theories. Icke specifically sites for reference CONAN THE BARBARIAN and V in his book,"The Truth Shall Set You Free". The shape shifting evil Repitillians from under the earth was a common theme in many late 19th-early 20th century pulps and Fiction. But it goes back to the Ancient world and classical mythology as well as even American Indian lore. |
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Post by whateva on Jan 30, 2007 10:25:36 GMT -5
I doubt the Illuminati are running the world behind the scenes. Not any organisation related directly to the Illuminati anyways though of course there could be another organisation who borrrowed the name. The original Bavarian Illuminati where radical supporters of the rule of the people and such things. It would be very much in violation of their own fairly democratic ideals if they had taken to secret government.
I also doubt there is a single organisation running the world for the simple reason that secretly controlling a whole planet is pretty hard.
That said I have no doubt there are more or less formal associations working behind the scenes to further their own goals. Hell why wouldn't there be? I myself try my best to influence the world in the direction I want it to go so why shouldn't people of larger means do the same?
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Post by Anodyne on Jan 30, 2007 16:03:22 GMT -5
Besides I think they were all looking for a war,and honesty it wouldn't surprise me of the whole thing was a sham,a costly one,but a sham none the less. You should frame this. It might apply to present and future events. I just heard a news report about "mountains of evidence". Sound familiar? If they were all looking for war then Chamberlain wouldn't have been running after Hitler giving him anything he wanted as long as Hitler promised to behave, which he wouldn't. Churchill was one of the few war hawks in Great Britain before the war started, and wasn't popular for it. FDR schemed to get involved in the war, but that's after the war began. Obviously, it's a despicable action on his part. |
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Post by Jack on Jan 30, 2007 21:07:54 GMT -5
You should frame this. It might apply to present and future events. I just heard a news report about "mountains of evidence". Sound familiar? If they were all looking for war then Chamberlain wouldn't have been running after Hitler giving him anything he wanted as long as Hitler promised to behave, which he wouldn't. Churchill was one of the few war hawks in Great Britain before the war started, and wasn't popular for it. FDR schemed to get involved in the war, but that's after the war began. Obviously, it's a despicable action on his part. I take it that was a reply to CG. For the record, I don't believe that World War II was staged. I was referring to Iran and Iraq. I think that certain people have an agenda, and they'll find "mountains of evidence" to further it. |
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Post by Jack on Jan 30, 2007 21:13:25 GMT -5
I doubt the Illuminati are running the world behind the scenes. Not any organisation related directly to the Illuminati anyways though of course there could be another organisation who borrrowed the name. The original Bavarian Illuminati where radical supporters of the rule of the people and such things. It would be very much in violation of their own fairly democratic ideals if they had taken to secret government. I also doubt there is a single organisation running the world for the simple reason that secretly controlling a whole planet is pretty hard. That said I have no doubt there are more or less formal associations working behind the scenes to further their own goals. Hell why wouldn't there be? I myself try my best to influence the world in the direction I want it to go so why shouldn't people of larger means do the same? I know what you mean, but the Illuminati infiltrated the Freemasons, and many powerful movers and shakers are members of that organization. Like you, I don't think that there is literally one formal group that controls everything. There probably is a combination of groups/individuals who make plans behind the scenes in a way that's contrary to the US Constitution. These are troubling times. |
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 3:06:59 GMT -5
Why should I want to be compared to this blonde fat bitch chasing a black gorilla? Would you exactly?  Warning number 2...I say three strikes and you're out chicaloca. |
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 3:09:24 GMT -5
No Skadi'ites and Stormfronters here so far, luckily. I enjoyed reading some posts on Skadi. I can do without the pseudo-Nazi stuff, though. I agree, Jack... I'd rather this board get more traffic from some of those people who argue like Jared Taylor or Steve Sailer, with intellect and factual evidence, then trollish outbursts of ad-hominem racism. I think if more stormfronters and skadi-tes actually WERE here, this board would pick up pace, and would be something more than just a mere alternative to HBD |
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 3:13:34 GMT -5
Bad week? LOL She's like that ALL the time. She's a major white washer of Iranians and if you happen to point out an Iranian that is not white, she has a mental meltdown. This week was especially bad though,lots of Arabs and Turks... ;D Well their her people and you know these boards,so all you can do is respect that & be more articulate in the way you approach the subject. I illustrated some plates with what Funk was trying to say. But she really hates Arabs,not much can be done there. I remember one of my posts was deleted on the PAN-Aryan Iranian spinoff site,cause I tried say saying in a nice way, to ease down on all the Iranian Pornostars being posted and seemed like they were used to represent Iranian woman among other things..The Moderator was nice about telling why it was deleted after he deleted(lol),but was it very uncalled for.  Can also say the same about Sisu and the Georgians. See a lot of touchy people all around these types of forums, and look at my response to OldPreten. People like that Iranian are living in a fantasy with an expiry date more than 1400 years old. They are so much the fringe element its not even funny. Most Iranians are pious Muslims, and their anti-Arab stance was shaped from the humiliating Arab conquests of Persia. |
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Post by tyrannos on Jan 31, 2007 3:37:58 GMT -5
The Mongol's I believe in turn humiliated the Arabs..
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 3:47:40 GMT -5
The Mongol's I believe in turn humiliated the Arabs.. The Mongols sacked and pillaged Persia first, but ultimately destroyed Islamic golden age when they sacked Baghdad in 1258 I believe. |
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Post by tyrannos on Jan 31, 2007 4:34:00 GMT -5
Islamic golden bowels...
So when the big move comes,see what happens in regards to posters.
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 4:54:19 GMT -5
The Islamic dark age that ensued atleast produced the Ottoman empire, because of which, there will ALWAYS be a permanent Islamic foothold in Europe (Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania) and soon enough, Turkey will return to Europe. Before you know it, Islam flourishes again, another golden age this time, sponsored by the EU.  Thats more likely and inevitable than any Roman resurgency crimson...too bad, Islam has the vigour that Europe desires. |
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Post by tyrannos on Jan 31, 2007 5:13:39 GMT -5
Islam was ally to even Hitler and Nazi Germany. As far as vigor goes,seems very limp and can only thrive as long as Socialism and Secularism in Europe is allowed to go unchecked.
The Balkans? ;D
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Post by Bilaad Binti on Jan 31, 2007 5:16:36 GMT -5
Point of no return was somewhere in the 90s. Anyways, I'd prefer the Balkans potential wise to say, Sicily...though I know both are no al-Andalus.
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Post by Jack on Jan 31, 2007 20:52:51 GMT -5
Icke specifically sites for reference CONAN THE BARBARIAN and V in his book,"The Truth Shall Set You Free". The shape shifting evil Repitillians from under the earth was a common theme in many late 19th-early 20th century pulps and Fiction. But it goes back to the Ancient world and classical mythology as well as even American Indian lore. The accounts go back to ancient Mesopotmia IIRC. It makes you wonder why they're so prevalent in both ancient myths and modern encounters. I think that David Icke was very influenced by "V", which was a forgotten science fiction TV show that was very similar to his conspiracy theories. I keep waiting for someone to mention it to him. |
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Warning number 2...I say three strikes and you're out chicaloca.
Thats more likely and inevitable than any Roman resurgency crimson...too bad, Islam has the vigour that Europe desires.