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Post by tyrannos on Jan 25, 2007 17:23:39 GMT -5
So what we have are the Dark Washers on one hand and the Light washers on the other. What we need are neutral washers... ;D
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Post by Liz on Jan 25, 2007 17:29:07 GMT -5
True ;D
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Post by jam on Jan 26, 2007 17:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by Funk Monk on Jan 26, 2007 18:33:51 GMT -5
For some reason it always comes down to language groups.
Lebanese are non-white because they're Semites, but Armenians are white because they're Indo-Europeans!
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Post by tyrannos on Jan 26, 2007 18:41:30 GMT -5
This was posted on Dienekes board back in 2003,thought it interesting:
Y-chromosomes from the Caucasus Testing hypotheses of language replacement in the Caucasus: evidence from the Y-chromosome
Ivan Nasidze et al.
Hum Genet (2003) 112: 255-261
Abstract A previous analysis of mtDNA variation in the Caucasus found that Indo-European-speaking Armenians and Turkic-speaking Azerbaijanians were more closely related genetically to other Caucasus populations (who speak Caucasian languages) than to other Indo-European or Turkic groups, respectively. Armenian and Azerbaijanian therefore represent language replacements, possibly via elite dominance involving primarily male migrants, in which case genetic relationships of Armenians and Azerbaijanians based on the Y-chromosome should more closely reflect their linguistic relationships. We therefore analyzed 11 bi-allelic Y-chromosome markers in 389 males from eight populations, representing all major linguistic groups in the Caucasus. As with the mtDNA study, based on the Y-chromosome Armenians and Azerbaijanians are more closely-related genetically to their geographic neighbors in the Caucasus than to their linguistic neighbors elsewhere. However, whereas the mtDNA results show that Caucasian groups are more closely related genetically to European than to Near Eastern groups, by contrast the Y-chromosome shows a closer genetic relationship with the Near East than with Europe.
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MDS plot and neighbor joining tree reproduced from the article
View image of MDS Plot
Source (Requires access)
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Post by drooperdoo on Jan 26, 2007 19:01:02 GMT -5
Jam, That's the kind of thing that keeps the so-called White Race divided and backward. People who claim to be all about advancing the white race exclude massive blocks of white countries because they're white, but not Nordic. So White Supremacists shouldn't call themselves "White" supremacists; they should call themselves "Nordic supremacists".
Because they exclude about 80% of the rest of the white race, who are fully Caucasoid, but who happen to fall outside of the tiny Nordic sub-ethnicity.
They're micro-specific. Next we should look forward to "Alpine supremacists," and "Dinaric supremacists". lol
Anyone who is not Alpine or Dinaric isn't "white," bwa-ha-ha-ha
Hyper-specific--and retarded.
* What's extra-retarded about excluding the Lebanese is that they're, on the whole, pre-Semitic. They're not actually Semites and never were. They just adopted the language in relatively recent times. It was imposed by conquest and empire. Historically, anthropologically, Lebanese are just Euro-Meds who spilled out over into the Levant. They emerged from Anatolia just like the Greeks, but the Greeks accidentally sailed over into what was to become mainland Europe. So now--magically--Greeks are white, and Lebanese (who are from the same stock) are non-white because of . . . geography? Man, racists are retards! Reminds me of an anecdote of a dimwitted farmer in Minnesota, who was on the border between the U.S. and Canada. His property being five yards over on the U.S. side, he said, "It's a good thing I'm over here so I can miss those harsh Canadian winters!" Nordicists are like that: Whew! Good thing Greeks are white because they moved from Anatolia to Europe . . . whereas Lebanese (who also are from Anatolia) moved two miles south in the "Middle East," so now they're magically not white. As if those imaginary lines change your race.
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Post by Funk Monk on Jan 26, 2007 19:16:54 GMT -5
Heh, I think you're taking them too seriously. Like everyone else, they just want to impress each other and seem hardcore by saying a lot of shit. In reality it doesn't matter, "white nationalism" hardly exists outside the Internet today.
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Post by lusitania on Jan 26, 2007 19:30:49 GMT -5
This is some really funny delusional shit talking by that Aussie "nationalist". He's going to line up and shoot that guy and his Lebanese wife? Heh. It's funny how socially inempt irrelevant people on the internet are so tough talking behind a screen. These people need to stop fantasizing with their delusions of race warrior glory.
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Post by Anodyne on Jan 26, 2007 20:05:05 GMT -5
These people need to stop fantasizing with their delusions of race warrior glory. It's all they have. It's mostly a lack of self esteem that drives them.
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Post by TURTURRO!LMAOAO! on Jan 26, 2007 21:45:13 GMT -5
For some reason it always comes down to language groups. Lebanese are non-white because they're Semites, but Armenians are white because they're Indo-Europeans! And also to religions , kurds are indo european, the same for persians, but I dont think they are white
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Post by tyrannos on Jan 26, 2007 23:11:41 GMT -5
So what do you beleive them to be?
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Post by Funk Monk on Jan 27, 2007 0:19:24 GMT -5
We discussed it on HBD, there has been conflict between Aussies and Leb gangs for a long time, so the Australians currently hate the Lebs. It's a specific conflict, confined to Australia, which lead to the Cronulla riots and all that shit.
You can see how quick perceptions change, Lebs came into Australia during the "white Australia" period, and now they're considered "non-white".
Internet WNs are all talk, if you want to see some really threatening statements that are more likely to get followed up by acts, take a look at some Mid Eastern religious/political forums.
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Post by lusitania on Jan 27, 2007 0:28:38 GMT -5
Even the Neo-cons have a very jingoistic attitude towards the Christian Lebanese. The average Neo-cons view on the Israel/Lebanon conflict looks something like this:
Intelligent Person: The Lebanese Maronites are Christian so as a "good christian" you support Jewish Israelis killing Lebanese Christian children? GWB or Stephen Harper: Muslim Lebanese, Christian Lebanese, same shit, they are all sand niggers and towelheads in the end, huh huh huh [note: Theres more sand in Israel than Lebanon which would make Neo-con ignorance even funnier.]
WNs are one thing but the Neo-cons are the ones that the Lebanese have to worry about IMO.
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Post by Funk Monk on Jan 27, 2007 0:31:49 GMT -5
There's no desert in Lebanon at all actually, making Lebanese Sand-Nigger an oxymoron.
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Post by lusitania on Jan 27, 2007 0:39:13 GMT -5
Heh true. I find that there is so much ignorance in general society about the Near-East that it's ridiculous. Especially among the Aussies (though not all obviously but the Cronulla idiots and those like them). Most of the "Lebs" they get angry about are actually descendants of Palestinian refugees that went to settle in Lebanon. Lebanon is like 15% Palestinian. These problem kids are very atypical of Lebs. Lebanese diaspora communities, which tend to be mostly Christian, have a reputation of being very educated, well-mannered and successful worldwide.
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