People who hate their own race

[Anodyne]

tyrashow.warnerbros.com/

It'll be on tomorrow at 5PM. I have plans, but maybe some can watch it, tape it, and invite me over to watch. We could cuddle up with popcorn.

[Jack]

It's safe to assume that none of Tyra's guests posts on these forums. However, if she did a show about "ethnic narcissism",...

[Jack]

I taped the show. It was sad on many levels. One of the guests was a "race expert" who sounded like he was teaching a 1990's-era diversity/sensitivity brainwashing session. He said that Black pride and Brown pride were acceptable, but White pride was unacceptable because White society was oppressive, blah, blah, blah.

[Anodyne]

jack said:

I taped the show. It was sad on many levels. One of the guests was a "race expert" who sounded like he was teaching a 1990's-era diversity/sensitivity brainwashing session. He said that Black pride and Brown pride were acceptable, but White pride was unacceptable because White society was oppressive, blah, blah, blah.

In other words, it wasn't worth watching.

[Jack]

ayndostoy said:

In other words, it wasn't worth watching.

Well, it might worth be watching. A Caucasoid couple and a half Native American woman stood behind a two-way mirror, insulting members of their own race. The insulted parties thought that the hidden people were bigots of another race. They were shocked when they discovered the truth. The PC rhetoric from the "race expert" was lame, though. Another guest was a Black man who hated other Black people. He said that he felt like a White man trapped in a Black man's body. A makeup artist tried to make him look White, and he went out on the street as a White man, but both Tyra and I agreed that he still looked Black. It was unintentionally LOL funny, but I felt sorry for the man, and his story was genuinely sad.

[heathenblood]

Those who insult their own people without good reasoning obviously lack a great deal of self esteem.

[imaginarypallies]

well other latinos sometimes get on my nerves for "no Espiquin inglis" and my mom yells at bad driving mexicans and slow walkers by saying "stupid indians".

[annienormanna]

heathenblood said:

Those who insult their own people without good reasoning obviously lack a great deal of self esteem.

I think this is true. They project their own self-hate onto others who are like them. Sad shit.

[heathenblood]

annienormanna said:

heathenblood said:

Those who insult their own people without good reasoning obviously lack a great deal of self esteem.

I think this is true. They project their own self-hate onto others who are like them. Sad shit.

Also, it doesn't help since White american's are indoctrinated with self-hate from birth. With all this slavery and holocaust propaganda( as if we are to blame). It may have happened, but these people think unreasonable. First off, you didn't kill anyone... secondly it's been decades/centuries since such events happened.

Which leads to the victimization of any white american, using this logic people will see a crime committed on an innocent white, and say "well he deserved it". Which I think is utter bullshit. Last time I checked the world was round.. many races killed many other people, owned slaves, sold slaves.

Which is why I think the american populace is too scared to look into their past to find an identity, which blurs the racial lines. Ok.. i'm done.

[drooperdoo]

That's the irony of race-based guilt.

Take the Holocaust, for instance. For some insane reason, Americans--who have been historically generous and tolerant of Jews--are inundated with Holocaust museums, school lectures, documentaries, etc--as if conditioning Americans not to hate, when they weren't the haters in the first place.
It's almost as if--being white and Christian--they're being filled with a sense of "collective guilt". Here's the irony. Why antisemitism was inherently evil was its apportionment of collective guilt. "Jewish bolesheviks" in the Soviet Union were seen as spreading a Jewish doctrine [Marxism] to eradicate Christianity and kill a nation's aboriginal Slavic populace in order to install non-Slavic leaders. Trotsky was a Jew, Lenin's grandfather was a Jew. Bela Kun in Hungary was installed as dictator, and he was a Jew, etc. Yes, even Winston Churchill agreed in a 1920 article that there was an alarmingly disproprtionate Jewish presence among the top Bolsheviks (and especially in the secret police). [Here's a link to his article: compuserb.com/winston1.htm ] But to take that out on an unrelated Jew in another country [Germany] and to beat him up out of some sense of "collective guiltiness" is why racism is inherently evil and moronic.
Which is why I wince when the same Jews who decry that sort of collective guilt when its applied to them come to America and peddle "Gentile guilt" to nations who had nothing to do with the Holocaust, upon the theory that "all white Christians" are somehow guilty for the crimes of a handful of German politicians.
We're all responsible now--so the logic goes--to protect them . . . to spend our tax money to fund their projects, think tanks and legal groups.
It's the concept of collective guilt again--this time wielded by lobby groups to con us out of tax-money for their organizations. So they have a huge infrastructure set up to keep the guilt flowing by indoctrinating our kids, making the Holocaust part of American history (as if it happened here), brainwashing them with emotionally-manipulative documentaries and school plays and compulsory reading of The Diary of Anne Frank, etc.
It's always good to know about your world--and to instill into children a sense of empathy for the suffering of others. But when it's being done cynically for money, that's where all truly moral people should draw the line.
I mean, why aren't the kids learning that the biggest mass-murderer of the 20th Century was Chairman Mao of China? Or that the second biggest mass-murderer was Stalin in the Soviet Union?
I guess because the Chinese don't have a powerful lobby in Washington, nor the Russians.
So if it's truly about empathy and teaching kids about history, it would make sense for them to learn about this other stuff--murders that dwarf the Holocaust. But they don't. And that's the dead give-away.
It's not truly about decency or history, it's about $$$.
Read The Holocaust Industry by Norm Finkelstein.
It'll turn your stomach, the depths to which some lobbyists will sink to get tax-money and con foreign governments out of billions for crimes they had nothing to do with.

[heathenblood]

I agree, which is why I'll never send my kids to a public school for them to brainwash my kids.

[Anodyne]

Drooperdoo, you're a broken record.

Which is why I wince when the same Jews who decry that sort of collective guilt when its applied to them come to America and peddle "Gentile guilt" to nations who had nothing to do with the Holocaust, upon the theory that "all white Christians" are somehow guilty for the crimes of a handful of German politicians.

As always you take a shred of truth and try to a build house on it. The problem is you don't know anything about construction.

[drooperdoo]

Anodyne,
I leave Sir Winston Churchill and Professor Norm Finkelstein to speak for me on the subject. But then I hesitate to use them as references--lest you lodge an unprovoked attack on them.

Unprovoked, I say, because--in my post--I don't remember addressing any comments to Anodyne, or asking for your criticism.

But your infallible social skills have led you once again to dispense with common manners and attack people who haven't mentioned you.

Talk about the subject, if you want. Refute it by giving examples and sources. [Like I gave a source by providing a link to Churchill's speech or mentioning Professor Finkelstein's work.] If you notice--and I hope you're paying attention--I didn't personally attack anybody.

I made a statement and backed it up with verifiable references.

My position wasn't so weak that I had to appeal to emotionalism or attack people on a personal basis.

So please stick to the issue at hand--and try not to lower the public discourse by launching ad hominem attacks.

Thanks.

[Anodyne]

drooperdoo said:

Anodyne,
I leave Sir Winston Churchill and Professor Norm Finkelstein to speak for me on the subject. But then I hesitate to use them as references--lest you lodge an unprovoked attack on them.

Unprovoked, I say, because--in my post--I don't remember addressing any comments to Anodyne, or asking for your criticism.

But your infallible social skills have led you once again to dispense with common manners and attack people who haven't mentioned you.

Talk about the subject, if you want. Refute it by giving examples and sources. [Like I gave a source by providing a link to Churchill's speech or mentioning Professor Finkelstein's work.] If you notice--and I hope you're paying attention--I didn't personally attack anybody.

I made a statement and backed it up with verifiable references.

My position wasn't so weak that I had to appeal to emotionalism or attack people on a personal basis.

So please stick to the issue at hand--and try not to lower the public discourse by launching ad hominem attacks.

Thanks.

We've gone over this many, MANY times. This is nothing new and so don't act as if it is. Much of what you state I addressed in Dodona 1 towards dukeofpain, and yourself, and I did so quite well.

It's also interesting that you didn't mention what I quoted from your post. We both know why. what sources do you have for supposed guilt being forced on gentiles? None, other than your interpretation, which has a bias. That was what I was responding to specifically, and, as expected you go on about what I didn't quote from your post.

But you're right. I should have just kept my mouth shut since I'm not interested in a long winded argument. However, I'm afraid what the neighbors might think.

P.S. I find it funny you accuse me of emotionalism considering your history on the issue. The Klebold + 1/4 Jewish = Columbine massacre is probably the best, and weirdest, example of your bias.

[Jack]

heathenblood said:

annienormanna said:

I think this is true. They project their own self-hate onto others who are like them. Sad shit.

Also, it doesn't help since White american's are indoctrinated with self-hate from birth. With all this slavery and holocaust propaganda( as if we are to blame). It may have happened, but these people think unreasonable. First off, you didn't kill anyone... secondly it's been decades/centuries since such events happened.

Which leads to the victimization of any white american, using this logic people will see a crime committed on an innocent white, and say "well he deserved it". Which I think is utter bullshit. Last time I checked the world was round.. many races killed many other people, owned slaves, sold slaves.

Which is why I think the american populace is too scared to look into their past to find an identity, which blurs the racial lines. Ok.. i'm done.

I simply ignore it if it's not presented in an even-handed way. Sure, Europeans and White Americans committed atrocities. I'll listen to someone's list of them if they list the atrocities committed by other groups. If not, I won't give them the time of day.