oldpretan
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Post by oldpretan on Jan 17, 2007 7:56:10 GMT -5
I understand that there was a time when US was actually breeding a surplus of slaves and exporting them to the Caribbean, would their descendants have a claim?
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yolas
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Post by yolas on Jan 17, 2007 12:15:53 GMT -5
This is the stupidest idea i've seen in a very very long time.
Slavery was horrible. I like black people. But why would people of today pay for the crimes of the people 300 years ago?
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kadu
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Post by kadu on Jan 18, 2007 17:05:50 GMT -5
I might have the answer to that question, but i don't want to sound offensive ;D
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enigma
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Post by enigma on Jan 19, 2007 4:29:17 GMT -5
That's all I have to say regarding this topic. ;D
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Cameo
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Post by Cameo on Jan 19, 2007 4:41:53 GMT -5
Its strange that everyone keeps saying no to my suggestion but at the same time not suggesting any alternatives. Its as if people are literally saying "Dude we're sorry your people got screwed over and everything, but just suck it up, at least you're not a slave now". Very clever logic I must say.[insert rolling eyes here]
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Post by Funk Monk on Jan 19, 2007 4:47:44 GMT -5
Well, you wasn't a slave before.
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Post by atessalev on Jan 19, 2007 6:09:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure about the US, but in Australia, Australian Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders get special scholarships from many universities. There's also usually a specific amount of places allocated solely for them.
There must be something like that in the US.
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Post by Jack on Jan 19, 2007 8:46:19 GMT -5
What happens when the free-loaders are descended from both slaves and slave-owners? How would the IRS handle that one? "Check the first box for total victimhood status. Check the second box for partial victimhood status mixed with descent from evil dead White men."
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oldpretan
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Post by oldpretan on Jan 19, 2007 9:32:16 GMT -5
What happens when the free-loaders are descended from both slaves and slave-owners? How would the IRS handle that one? "Check the first box for total victimhood status. Check the second box for partial victimhood status mixed with descent from evil dead White men." That must be true about a lot of them. Charlie with his euro & amerind ancestors only qualifies for a 50% reduction at most.
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Post by Cameo on Jan 19, 2007 10:16:43 GMT -5
I'm 100% Afro-American so I should be exempt 100%. My French and Amerind ancestry doesn't count, lol.
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Post by praetorian on Jan 20, 2007 10:28:03 GMT -5
Its strange that everyone keeps saying no to my suggestion but at the same time not suggesting any alternatives. Its as if people are literally saying "Dude we're sorry your people got screwed over and everything, but just suck it up, at least you're not a slave now". Very clever logic I must say.[insert rolling eyes here] That's how it is. Nobody compensated my ancestors for the adversities they suffered. What's the logic in punishing innocent people? (And yes, by making blacks not paying taxes, but still reap the benefits, while the rest of us would have to pay more to compensate for that *is* a punishment).
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Post by Cameo on Jan 20, 2007 10:34:06 GMT -5
Its strange that everyone keeps saying no to my suggestion but at the same time not suggesting any alternatives. Its as if people are literally saying "Dude we're sorry your people got screwed over and everything, but just suck it up, at least you're not a slave now". Very clever logic I must say.[insert rolling eyes here] That's how it is. Nobody compensated my ancestors for the adversities they suffered. What's the logic in punishing innocent people? (And yes, by making blacks not paying taxes, but still reap the benefits, while the rest of us would have to pay more to compensate for that *is* a punishment). Who said punish the innocent? I just said exempt my people from paying taxes.
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Post by praetorian on Jan 20, 2007 10:40:47 GMT -5
That's how it is. Nobody compensated my ancestors for the adversities they suffered. What's the logic in punishing innocent people? (And yes, by making blacks not paying taxes, but still reap the benefits, while the rest of us would have to pay more to compensate for that *is* a punishment). Who said punish the innocent? I just said exempt my people from paying taxes. I already explained how that would be a form of punishment. Can't you read? It's right there in brackets.
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Post by menk on Jan 20, 2007 18:19:03 GMT -5
I'd say its applicable in cases where a family or business has wealth that has been maintained from slave times-- reparations should be paid to the descendants of the slaves they owned. It would be tough to figure out. But a tax break?
Also, consider much of the wealth built by slavery was destroyed during and after the civil war. The south is still not fully recovered.
But some general racial reparation is not applicable -- should it be about whites paying blacks? As pointed out, even among whites with roots to slave times, most did not own slaves -- and today, so many european-Americans are descended from immigrant stock that came afterwards.
And to whomever mentioned the scholarship/job placement programs in australia, we have something similar, called Affirmative Action. Its quite contraversial here as it ultimately favors race over merit.
How much should reparations be? 40 acres and a mule of southern land, payed in cash, adjusted for inflation?
For children of children of slaves, or what?
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Post by Puss in Boots on Jan 23, 2007 16:32:58 GMT -5
As compensation for unpaid slavery that lasted 400 years plus systematic oppression during Jim Crow, anyone disagree? Who is going to pay? What group of people?
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