Uygurs

[mjora]

[Mike the Jedi]

Even though the Uighurs are far and away from the Iranian Plateau, I think at least in the last two men pictured, an Irano-Mesopotamian component is apparent.

[atessalev]

Wow. They look some of the Indonesians i went to school with, especially the first few individuals.

[imaginarypallies]

heres the worlds most phamous uighur

if know body gets it, uyghur is pronounced Wee-gehr atleast acourding to that news thing on uyghurs of xinyang i saw on discovery channel way back when

[yolas]

mike said:

Even though the Uighurs are far and away from the Iranian Plateau, I think at least in the last two men pictured, an Irano-Mesopotamian component is apparent.

It's because they have some Turkic ancestry. There's an Uygur i see in international economics class and he looks half mediterrenean-half chinese.

[Mike the Jedi]

Hell, I just got that, Mango. lol... and I knew how it was pronounced!

[Forrester]

yolas said:

mike said:

Even though the Uighurs are far and away from the Iranian Plateau, I think at least in the last two men pictured, an Irano-Mesopotamian component is apparent.

It's because they have some Turkic ancestry. There's an Uygur i see in international economics class and he looks half mediterrenean-half chinese.

"Turkic" given the context of the area can't mean anything "Mediterranean". They were Indo-European Europids Mongolised by Altaics, so it's the other way around. Right?

[yolas]

whom do you mean by "they" ? first of all, i didn't say turkic=med. i just said the guys looks a mix of med and chinese.

it's not about the topic but i'm gonna tell you this: contrary to the popular belief of europeans, Turks who came to Anatolia and Europe weren't all mongoloid looking people. Turks ruled most of Asia back then. Turks had many different tribes. There were Turkish tribes that was full of blondes, there were mongoloid looking Turk tribes, there were med looking tribes as well. So Turks were mixed a lot even before they came to Anatolia and Europe. Oghuz Turks who are ancestors of Anatolian Turks looked more or less today's Anatolian Turks. Kypçaks and Peçenek Turks were mostly blond, colored eyed and Bulgar Turks too. Those three tribes got assimilated and became Slavs. ( today's Bulgarians were actually a Turkish tribes before having mixed with slavs ) Only 5% of Anatolian Turks have Mongoloid blood, which means Turks were either not mongoloid, or were already mixed before they came to Anatolia.

you can find more info here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkic_states_and_empires

[Forrester]

whom do you mean by "they" ?

Uygurs.

first of all, i didn't say turkic=med.

You seemed to be implying the "Irano-Mesopotamian" Europid look had to do with a partial "Turkish" ancestry. The "Turkish ancestry" in this context either means Mongoloid ancestors, or nothing, because Ugyurs are nothing but Turkish. If you're saying Turks are variable, period, I agree, but not what was unambiguously written.

it's not about the topic but i'm gonna tell you this: contrary to the popular belief of europeans, Turks who came to Anatolia and Europe weren't all mongoloid looking people.

This is common knowledge on these forums. Hence what I said about context. Having "Turkish" ancestry means nothing here except the forebearers of the language, who in this case, Uygurs, were in fact Mongoloid.

[yolas]

Ugyurs are nothing but Turkish

Turkic and Turkish words are not always the same... try asking an Uzbek " you're Turkish, aren't you? "