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Post by Anodyne on Jan 31, 2007 18:32:41 GMT -5
I've noticed race forums are full of people with an inflated sense of pride in what they were born into by chance. One aspect of this "pride" I find humorous is the boost of self esteem they feel for themselves because a member of the group has accomplished something meaningful. I have a hard time being proud, or ashamed, for something I didn't do, but that doesn't seem to be an issue for others. Respect for people, regardless of their origins, for an accomplishment, and this can be something considered as grand as solving a scientific mystery, or less known, such as owning their own business, is what I feel, but never pride.
What do you think? Is racial/ethnic pride cheap?
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Post by rikhardhur on Jan 31, 2007 19:22:22 GMT -5
What do you think? Is racial/ethnic pride cheap? I think it is, totally, but I do respect and understand those who think otherwise. |
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Post by Jack on Jan 31, 2007 21:32:05 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. I've felt this way for years. I have no pride in or shame for the actions of *other people* just because they happen to share my ethnicity. Recognizing one's heritage is fine, but keep it in perspective.
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Post by murphee on Jan 31, 2007 21:35:07 GMT -5
I'm not into it either, though I think some of my traits are cool such as my thick, curly blonde hair and blue eyes with white lashes and brows.
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Post by praetorian on Jan 31, 2007 21:37:23 GMT -5
Any kind of group pride is cheap, because you most likely didn't contribute to it. I even see personal pride as cheap...There's nothing wrong with having self-love, on the contrary, but there's no need to shove it down uppon others..Usually that's a sign of *lack* of self-love.
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Post by murphee on Jan 31, 2007 21:41:50 GMT -5
I agree. The person with true pride in himself is usually humble and considerate.
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Post by atessalev on Feb 1, 2007 7:32:12 GMT -5
Being proud or ashamed of what you are (ethnically) is a little stupid, i agree. With young people especially, i've noticed that the ones who are the most nationalistic are those that know the least about, for instance, Turkey. That really bugs me. But i'd be lying if i said i wasn't biased against Turks, both postively and negatively. I like it when Turkey does well in sports, and i'd support Turkish national teams before Australian ones any day. I'd probably also try to be more involved in the "Turkish community" than any other, not including the "Muslim community", but only because both aren't properly represented. And believe it or not, i'm incrediably harsh on Turks and Muslims with my criticisms - i've been called (or thought to be) anti-religion and anti-Turk many times!  |
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