Jon Secada

[rikhardhur]

[drooperdoo]

Just looks like a tri-racial mix from the Caribbean. Because of the high white content, I'm assuming he's from Puerto Rico. (He'd be far more purely West African in cast if he came from Cuba or the Dominican Republic, and a thousand times darker if he came from Jamaica, etc.) So I'm wagering Puerto Rico.

It's funny, how when Mediterranean whites mix with blacks sometimes, the resulting hybrid looks just like an Ethiopian or Somali.

Secada has that look--of, say, a member of a Yemeni tribe in Somalia.

In any case, a handsome man--a good mix of the races.

[jojolucille]

I would never think he was from Ethiopia. Ethiopians if anything have features similar to near easterners, not western mediterraneans.

Secada looks like what he is, mostly Iberian with a tad Amerindian. Those selected pictures make him look darker; I've seen him on TV with mediterranean olive pigmentation.

[drooperdoo]

Maybe we have different ideas of what "olive" means.

When I think "olive," I think Catherine Zeta-Jones or Antonio Banderas.

I don't think either of them would--in any lighting!--look as dark next to this woman as he does:



Could you think of any circumstances under which Catherine Zeta-Jones would look this ashy-brown next to a Caucasoid?

[jojolucille]

drooperdoo said:

Maybe we have different ideas of what "olive" means.

When I think "olive," I think Catherine Zeta-Jones or Antonio Banderas.

Well olive can be darker than that. Case closed.

[drooperdoo]

I think you're reacting to pictures of Secada where he's under professional lighting--which is increased to the Nth degree to make him artificially look lighter.

Under normal lighting and under all circumstances, he's extremely dark.

In the Caribbean, they have different color-gradations: olive, and the shade darker than olive--"trigeño".
Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta would be an example of the darkest "olive" would go.



After that, darker complexions are referred to as "trigeño"--as exemplified by actor Nick Turturro:



Secada's ten shades darker than that.

* Hell, there's a point past which the description "olive" can't go. Can you imagine anyone describing this guy as "olive"?


There's a point when you're just plain brown! But no matter.

[tyrannos]

They have Brunette White or so-called Olive pigmentation found in the Mediterranean type even in Britain.

So Droop,your trying to say their tri-racials or something? ;D


Portuguese:



Sicilian(Maria Grazia Cucinotta)

[rikhardhur]

drooperdoo said:

Just looks like a tri-racial mix from the Caribbean. Because of the high white content, I'm assuming he's from Puerto Rico. (He'd be far more purely West African in cast if he came from Cuba or the Dominican Republic, and a thousand times darker if he came from Jamaica, etc.) So I'm wagering Puerto Rico.

He's Cuban actually.

[drooperdoo]

No, just making the point that, if you're only one-shade lighter than the full-blooded black man sitting next to you, you can no longer legitimately try to be called "olive-skinned". lol



As this picture proves, Secada's probably around Harry Belafonte's color [with probably a similar admixture ratio.] Because he speaks Spanish, though--and Belafonte speaks English--there's an irrational attempt to try and pretend he's substantively different than Mr. Belafonte.

* This picture is also instructive regarding Secada's hair-texture. In other pictures, it looks Indian-straight. But look at the pepper-corn curls in this shot. Does it imply that he straightens his hair [like Al Sharpton], or it is a natural mixture of Caucasoid, Amerinidian and Negroid?

[Mike the Jedi]

It's rather subjective, but olive to me usually implies a yellowish-green tinge. However I've seen it used for about every color shy of honkeyoid pink or of Indian brown. Google "olive skin" and you'll see what I mean.

[imaginarypallies]

drooperdoo said:

I think you're reacting to pictures of Secada where he's under professional lighting--which is increased to the Nth degree to make him artificially look lighter.

Under normal lighting and under all circumstances, he's extremely dark.

In the Caribbean, they have different color-gradations: olive, and the shade darker than olive--"trigeño".
Sicilian actress Maria Grazia Cucinotta would be an example of the darkest "olive" would go.



After that, darker complexions are referred to as "trigeño"--as exemplified by actor Nick Turturro:



Secada's ten shades darker than that.

* Hell, there's a point past which the description "olive" can't go. Can you imagine anyone describing this guy as "olive"?


There's a point when you're just plain brown! But no matter.

as a caribbean, I gotta say your wrong Triguenho (my Keyboard don't have a tilde bite me) IS olive and Moreno is Darker than Triguenho(like caramel brown Alfonso Ribeiro) and Prieto is a black, I'm triguenho.

[imaginarypallies]

caucasoidintifada said:

mike said:

It's rather subjective, but olive to me usually implies a yellowish-green tinge. However I've seen it used for about every color shy of honkeyoid pink or of Indian brown. Google "olive skin" and you'll see what I mean.

yeah. I am pretty olivoid
Olivoid means to me having yellowish skin type. Pink aint olive and neither is brown.

PERFECTLY OLIVE

Olive ranges, and you look rather pale actually i dont see much yellow tones

heres a better example

[Mike the Jedi]

Yes, Eugene is definitely olive. It's that yellowish green complexion I was talking about.

[drooperdoo]

I have Eugene Levy's complexion.

You'd crack up if you heard the number of times people saw me under artificial light--especially neon--and said, "My God! Are you sick? Your complexion looks so green!"

It was then that I realized why my skin is described as "olive".

[Mike the Jedi]

I've had the same happen to me.