What is your phenotype?

[Anodyne]

jojolucille said:

ayndostoy said:

Most people classified me as Atlanto- Mediterranean.

Really? You looked very Alpine to me, soft featured. Even your baby picture looked like alpine babies I've known. We kind of look alike since I'm an Alpine-med.

It wasn't a baby picture that I posted. It was a photo of me as a toddler. I had around a dozen people classify me and no one brought up anything alpine.

What's interesting, since you say I look similar to you, is that Agrippa says I look similar to him, although shorter, but that I have more "Billy Zane qualities" (I think he meant facial relief) That's probably why he said I was "Atlantid", since that's what he considers himself, while most everyone else leaned towards Atlanto- Mediterranean with regards to me. I hear Dienekes didn't think he was "Atlantid."

[Forrester]

Atlantids are Atlanto-Mediterranids without typical pigmentation.

Dienekes said Agrippa looked Atlanto-Mediterranean, or perhaps just Mediterranean, because he uses a much simpler system: Mediterranean, Nordic, Dinaric, Alpine, Baltic, Uralic. Atlantid fits in with Mediterranean.

[Anodyne]

Actually, Agrippa said I was Atlantid/NordoMediterranean.

Can some explain that to me?

[tyrannos]

annienormanna said:

Nordid+ Dinaric-Pontid or Noric Pontid.

I am not Atlantid!!!!!!!!!

Although a good case can be made for Kelto-Nordic+Atlanto-Med lolollo

Annie, if you want send me your profile shot, I want to see something again.

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When I used Dienekes racial calculator, I got the Proto-Europoid/Atlanto-Med type configuration followed by Alpine-Med or whatever it was . That was over a year ago.

So going by the best classifications from within the last 3 months -- I'am Dinarized Atlanto-Mediterranean-Cromagnon. .

[Forrester]

ayndostoy said:

Actually, Agrippa said I was Atlantid/NordoMediterranean.

Can some explain that to me?

Maybe that Mediterranid features and pigmentation, sans skin color, are dominant. A Nordid and Mediterranid mixture might look Atlantid.

He also believes Atlantids form a link in a cline of features, pigmentation, robustity, and height going from Mediterranids to Nordids: Gracile-Mediterranid - Atlanto-Mediterranid/Pontid - Atlantid - Nordid -- dark-gracile-short to light-tall-robust, in relative terms, of course. The cline might not work at the jump from Atlantids to Nordids.

[jam]

I wrote 'Borreby' on the other fora (or is that forii??), but I'm not really sure - I'm short, and despite my head is sorta broad, my head isn't large, and perhaps I'm just short faced - and sorta long necked.
I'm def. not Med, though!!!

[annienormanna]

tyrannos said:

annienormanna said:

Nordid+ Dinaric-Pontid or Noric Pontid.

I am not Atlantid!!!!!!!!!

Although a good case can be made for Kelto-Nordic+Atlanto-Med lolollo

Annie, if you want send me your profile shot, I want to see something again.

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When I used Dienekes racial calculator, I got the Proto-Europoid/Atlanto-Med type configuration followed by Alpine-Med or whatever it was . That was over a year ago.

So going by the best classifications from within the last 3 months -- I'am Dinarized Atlanto-Mediterranean-Cromagnon. .

Here's the profile:




Frontal:

[tyrannos]

I see some semblences to this Sicilian dancer from palermo.

Eleonora Abbagnato-

[annienormanna]

I think my face is a bit more elongated than her, esecialy in the nasal region. Also she's gracile. Finer, more delicate looking. It's a compliment to be compared to her, though.

[tyrannos]

Well, she's younger and more Southern.

But seriously to be fair your older in those pics,so age plays a part to you know.

Coon stated that Southern Europeans are more chiseled than Northern Europeans. But i think your of the same type none the less .


So yes on the Dinaric-Pontid or Atlanto-Med. classification.

[tyrannos]

How would classify my Paternal great grandparents?

*****

[annienormanna]

You grandmother has strong Atlanto Med/cromagnoid tendencies. Your grandfather reminds me of Paul Giamatti. The photo's a bit faded so it isn't easy to see clearly.

[tyrannos]

Giamatti,maybe in the upper cranium region. But my great greatfather has wider more oval face ,Giamatti i think his cheek bones recedes to much.

He was a redhead though.

[annienormanna]

tyrannos said:

Well, she's younger and more Southern.

But seriously to be fair your older in those pics,so age plays a part to you know.

Coon stated that Southern Europeans are more chiseled than Northern Europeans. But i think your of the same type none the less .


So yes on the Dinaric-Pontid or Atlanto-Med. classification.

Well, it's not Atlantid. She actually looks somewhat "Pontid," in that I can see a Med quality that's more apparent in Eastern Europe. I've gotten enough nordid+med classifications so I have to go with that. Especially since my husband has that idea. He says I look Northern with "Classical Latin" features.

You're great grandfather's image may be a bit too faded. I know what you mean by receding cheeks, though. I think his head is tilted a bit up.

[tyrannos]

annienormanna said:

Well, it's not Atlantid. She actually looks somewhat "Pontid," in that I can see a Med quality that's more apparent in Eastern Europe. I've gotten enough nordid+med classifications so I have to go with that. Especially since my husband has that idea. He says I look Northern with "Classical Latin" features.

Nordic? I have trouble seeing you as a Nordic,least the classical generally accepted one. If your Nordic,its in deluded admixture.But if thats what your husband says,who am I to argue?!

Well Ann,same can be said for me regarding Pontic--I fit into those Eastern European or even Anatolian plates I seen very easily. The reality is Mediterranean is Mediterranean. Thats the scheme Coon later used as well. It doesn't divide anything anymore into arbitrary nonsense.